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Minutes of Fall 2002 Meeting
Courtyard by Marriott,
Gaithersburg, MD
Saturday, September 21, 2002
Attendees
BRSC: Wayne Homens, President; Steve Peirce,
Treasurer; Nancy Cruise, Secretary; Pentagon Ski Club: Dave Olsen, Peter
Porton; Columbia Ski Club: Kitty Imdahl, Gary Prestianni, Bill
Schroedel, Kevin Smith; Fredericksburg Ski Club: Mike Redding, Bob
Schwab; Crabtowne Skiers: Pete Chambliss, Molly Hochman, Nancy
Waddington; Fagowees Ski Club: Pam Chewning; Baltimore Ski Club: Bruce
Eichen, Joe Herbert, Daniel Van Gelder; Harford Ski Club: Chris
Breidenbaugh, Zermain Breidenbaugh; Ski Club of Washington DC: Gene
Lewis, Jerri Held; Southern MD Ski Club: Gary Sunderland; Potomac Valley
Skiers: Glade Flake, Charles Huggins, Sara Huggins, John Pulos, John
Smith; Salisbury: Edward Torbert; HQ USAF Winter: Dave Gurtner, John
LaJeunesse. Guests: Cindy Bailey (Stowe), Aida Idrizi (GTU), Sam Mantis
(WSI), Judy Miller (GTU), Paul Webber (Mid Atlantic Ski Travel Show),
Fred Zedeck (Ski Show - Dulles Expo Center).
President Wayne Homens called the meeting to order
at 8:56 a.m. and welcomed everyone. The attendees introduced themselves.
Approval
of Minutes.
Peter Porton moved the council approve the minutes of the spring 2002
minutes. The motion was seconded by John LaJeunesse and approved by the
council.
Treasurer’s
Report
Treasurer Steve Peirce reported that there was a
checkbook balance of $6576.94 and a savings account balance of $2605.73
for a total of $9182.67 . Steve said he talked with the bank and was
able to maintain the savings account at a minimum balance without
incurring extra charges. Pam Chewning moved and Bill Schroedel seconded
approval of the treasurer’s report. All were in favor. The motion was
approved.
COMMITTEE
REPORTS
Fred Zedeck, producer of the National Ski and Snowboard Expo,
announced that he had joined forces with another individual and that
they would be bringing a ski and golf expo to Baltimore, November 15-17
at the Timonium Fairgrounds. The Washington expo will be expanded this
year and will include golf. Dates for the expo is November 8-10 and will
be held at the Dulles Expo Center in Chantilly
Wayne reported that no one had offered to help on the web site so the
site remains about the same except on the trip sanction page. Currently
there are approximately 30 trip sanctions. Wayne reminded the council
that trip sanctions would not be posted on the web until he received
notification from the treasurer that the sanction fees had been paid.
Wayne said that the council site was receiving 70-80 hits per day. Wayne
asked the council for volunteers to work on the web site. Wayne also
asked for articles of interest from the clubs for posting on the web
site. Wayne said that BRSC can set up a club web page and also create
mail forwarding for clubs.
Wayne said he had received only one resume for the 2004 Western
Carnival coordinator position. The resume was from Steve Peirce, who
Wayne felt was qualified for the position so he appointed Steve as the
coordinator. Wayne said he had received two resumes for the 2004
Eurofest coordinator position. Each candidate was allowed 5 minutes to
present their qualifications to the council. By ballot, the council
voted Bill Schroedel as the 2004 Western Carnival coordinator.
Wayne stated that a hot topic of discussion at the Ski Federation
meeting was on ski council and ski federation ethics. Wayne asked the
clubs whether they had a written policy on code of ethics. Wayne said
that the ski federation is currently putting together its code of ethics
and will share them with the councils once completed. One of the other
major topics at ski federation was on “seller of travel.” The council
briefly discussed how the seller of travel regulations might affect ski
clubs. Wayne said the information was important to the clubs and offered
to discuss it further during breakout sessions. He said the information
will be posted on the ski federation web site at
www.skifederation.org.
A lot of the information will be posted on a members only page
accessible by a password. Wayne said that clubs could contact him for
the password. In the future scoring/grading pages will be added for
councils/clubs to rate tour operators, ski areas, lodging, bus
companies, etc. there will be a page open to the public on club ratings.
For the spring meeting, Wayne asked that if anyone was interested, to
send him a resume for the Breckenridge 2005 Winter Western Carnival
coordinator position. The 2006 Western Carnival will be held in Sun
Valley. Wayne entertained suggestions from the council for locations for
Eurofest 2005. Areas suggested were: Zurs/Lech; Morzine; Val Gardena;
Trois Vallees; and Val d’Isere. Area to be selected in the afternoon.
Steve Peirce, the 2004 Western Carnival Coordinator, said that if the
council agreed to a different week for Snowmass, then previously agreed
upon, that the cost would be significantly less -- approximately
$300.00. He would like to have some alternate dates to bring back to the
council. Current dates of the Western Carnival are first full week in
February. Dave Olsen moved that the council allow the dates to slip one
week earlier or one week later for the coordinator to use in the bid
process. Pete Chambliss seconded the motion. One opposed/rest in favor.
The motion was approved. The council agreed to leave the dates, for 2004
Eurofest as the first full week in March. Dave Olsen asked for
clarification when the exact dates the first full week in February and
the first full week in March started. Wayne asked the council to discuss
among themselves and that the question would be brought up later in the
meeting.
Wayne had not received any ski safety award nominations.
Wayne asked if anyone had heard from PSIA, no report was available.
Sam Mantis reported that there would be a WSI race every Saturday and
Sunday starting January 4th through February 15th. One change
to the scheduled this year will be a weekend at WISP. Sam gave a run
down of the WSI race program, said that the race was open to everyone,
and encouraged clubs to participate. The schedule is posted on the web
site.
Dave Olsen, 2003 Winter Western Carnival Race Coordinator, reported
that the race at Tahoe would be held at Alpine Meadows and will be a
NASTAR race. Dave said that there are no proposed rule changes therefore
the race will be operated under the existing rules. Copies of the rules
were available for the council members. Dave asked that the trip leaders
have their racers register on-line with NASTAR
Wayne explained that at the spring meeting the council had decided to
pursue organizing a ski group type of show. Paul Webber, who organized
the show last year, told Wayne that he planned to do the same for the
coming year. Wayne said he had corresponded with a couple of the people
who had volunteered to help out and the consensus was to postpone BRSC
work on a show to see how things work out with Paul Webber. Wayne
introduced Paul, who explained that there is no longer a ski group. Last
year after ski group cancelled their show, the industry asked Paul to
put together the Washington, Philadelphia and Boston shows, which Paul
put together in approximately 10 days. This year the Philadelphia show
will be on May 1st, and the mid-Atlantic ski travel show will be on
Saturday, May 3rd at the BWI Embassy Suites. He is expecting to have 60
vendors at BWI and it will be a tabletop show. The show hours will
probably be 11:00-3:00. Prior to the show at about 9:30 a.m. will be a
trip leader training session. There was a question from the floor about
why the shows could not be held in the fall since most clubs have
already planned their next year’s ski season by May. Paul said that the
vendors are involved in consumer shows and have other commitments in the
fall. He suggested that clubs attend the spring show looking out two
seasons.
Wayne gave the council a brief history of ski-o-ree and said that
SCWDC was attempting to resurrect the ski-o-ree. He said that Stowe was
very interested in getting the council back up to New England. Wayne
introduced Cindy Bailey from Stowe, who presented a proposal for a trip
to Stowe in 2004. Discussion ensued on means of travel. Consensus of the
council was to fly and do a mid-week, Sunday to Friday package. Stowe’s
race program is NASTAR qualified. Cindy entertained suggestions from the
floor on items to be included in the package.
Wayne discussed the National Ski Federation and what it can do for
ski clubs. One benefit is discounts and Wayne listed the current
discounts available. Wayne said the discounts will be available on the
web site.
The council broke for lunch at 11:40 a.m. and reconvened at
12:57 p.m.
Wayne asked the council for names of proposed vendors to receive bid
letters for the Western Carnival 2004. The council recommended GTU,
Lynx, Rocky Mountain Tours, and Alpine Consultants. For Europe the
council recommended Central Holiday, GTU, Adventures on Skis, and Ski
Europe.
Wayne reported on the National Ski Council Federation meeting. He
stated there are 24 councils in the federation, representing about 330,
000 skiers. Richard Davidson made a presentation on travel. Two items of
interest were that one, the airlines are no longer commissioning airline
tickets, which means the travel agents will be adding an airline ticket
cutting fees and two, airlines are limiting changes to airline tickets,
particularly group tickets. Wayne stated that some of the on-line ticket
sites are now offering group tickets and travel. Another issue covered
at the meeting was ski injury waivers. The lawyer said that waivers
should have a clause pertaining to “in the state of” e.g., “the laws of
the state of Maryland apply to this waiver. If the statement is not
included, a club/and or individual might be sued in the state where the
incident occurred, not where the waiver was signed. If a club is a
multi-state club, they should choose the state that has the better
liability laws. Wayne said that some states do not allow a parent to
sign away an underage child’s right, which means that clubs could be
liable for injury to underage participants in races. Discussion followed
on whether BRSC should exclude underage participants from the BRSC race.
Issue will be discussed during breakout session and brought back to the
council for a decision. Wayne said that most of the other council’s were
more active than the BRSC. He asked if clubs would be interested in
getting together for more activities, e.g., softball, golf tournament,
etc. Peter Porton opined that instead of organizing more activities,
that the clubs become more active on working the issues such as
insurance.
Judy Miller, GTU, introduced her assistant Aida, who will assist on
the 2003 Winter Western Carnival to Tahoe and the 2003 Eurofest to
Innsbruck. Judy reported on the status of both trips. Judy recommended
that participants take out trip insurance.
Wayne polled the council for their choices for the 2005 and 2006
EuroFests. The council voted on Trois Vales, France for 2005 and Val
Gardena, Italy for 2006. Wayne said he would be taking resumes for
coordinators for 2005 Winterfest and Eurofest for the spring meeting.
On the topic of insurance, Wayne said that one club paid their
officer’s $65.00 to up their homeowners insurance personal liability. On
the topic of a council directory/roster, one suggestion was to have it
on the web vice a hardcopy roster. One suggestion was to publish a flyer
with club addresses and points of contact to display at ski shops. Wayne
asked for a volunteer. No one volunteered.
Wayne stated that he felt the council spent too much time during
meetings talking about the two trips, which he said should be an
off-shoot of the meeting and that we should get back into what the
council needs to exchange with each other. Wayne said he would send the
clubs information on insurance, what to add to their waivers, more
information on the ski federation, and the web site. The issue with GTU
will be discussed in a session after the meeting is adjourned.
Wayne polled the council on whether to have a one or a 2-day meeting
in the spring. Consensus was to have a 2-day format with the business
portion on Sunday. Crabtowne volunteered to host in Annapolis, May
17-18.
The meeting was adjourned at 3:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy E. Cruise
Secretary
Blue Ridge Ski Council 2/14/03
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